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  Posted on July 5, 2015 22:39
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Raikiri is a melee attack. A little air bending gets Kakashi and his stupid ass jutsu blown away. If he uses the range version of it, Korra can redirect it. While she's busy redirecting and Kakashi tries to surprise attack/use a clone she can sense it before hand and earth bend.

Kumai isn't that fast, Ash. I remember when he was using it on Deidara and he was taking a long ass time. He only has one sharingan here, so Kamui will be slow and Korra will have time to react to it.
That was when Kakashi didn't master. He did master his 1 eye'd Kamui later on and was able to use it more precisely at a rapid succession, as you can see in the war. He warped Rasengan and kage bunshin so fast that Obito thought they were destroyed.
The version of Kakashi isn't stated in the OP, so it's automatic to choose the most skilled/powerful version, which is the version of Kakashi that mastered his Kamui. Kamui insta's Korra.
  Posted on July 5, 2015 22:42
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I think Korra would win. Cause Kakashi only has 1 sharingan (hmm)
She has all the elements as well as Rava.

he can copy or use kamui with his sharingan and if will use his abilities?
The sharingan can only copy jutsu. The avatar doesn't use ninja techniques
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  Posted on August 10, 2015 13:07
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1 mangyekou? Kakashi have this for sure
  Posted on August 10, 2015 13:12
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Kakashi wins because have all elements and can defend korra's elements and with kamui finish her.That's the strategy and a stongest can lose from a weakest because between those is inteligence
  Posted on August 10, 2015 13:26
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Kakashi wins because have all elements and can defend korra's elements and with kamui finish her.That's the strategy and a stongest can lose from a weakest because between those is inteligence

Korra has all elements too
  Posted on August 11, 2015 02:27
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Kamui GG
  Posted on August 13, 2015 06:47
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bleacheria wrote:
6972box wrote:
Raikiri is a melee attack. A little air bending gets Kakashi and his stupid ass jutsu blown away. If he uses the range version of it, Korra can redirect it. While she's busy redirecting and Kakashi tries to surprise attack/use a clone she can sense it before hand and earth bend.

Kumai isn't that fast, Ash. I remember when he was using it on Deidara and he was taking a long ass time. He only has one sharingan here, so Kamui will be slow and Korra will have time to react to it.
That was when Kakashi didn't master. He did master his 1 eye'd Kamui later on and was able to use it more precisely at a rapid succession, as you can see in the war. He warped Rasengan and kage bunshin so fast that Obito thought they were destroyed.
The version of Kakashi isn't stated in the OP, so it's automatic to choose the most skilled/powerful version, which is the version of Kakashi that mastered his Kamui. Kamui insta's Korra.

Don't know why I just saw this, but Korra still is fast enough to react. Not to mention what Kakashi Kamui'd fast were very small objects. Not to mention a water shield is the perfect counter to Kamui X whenver Kakashi uses Kamui, this is what it would end up looking like X He would only end up using Kamui on the water.
Korra speed feats:
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If Korra could easily react to explosions at the last second, I don't see a problem with Kakashi.

Seismic sensing for underground sneak attacks from Kakashi are easily countered
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X Not to mention speedy lightning reaction.

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Korra can easily do this and have the water flood the part of the earth til Kakashi drowns to death, building water pressure.
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  Posted on August 13, 2015 06:51
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bleacheria wrote:
6972box wrote:
Raikiri is a melee attack. A little air bending gets Kakashi and his stupid ass jutsu blown away. If he uses the range version of it, Korra can redirect it. While she's busy redirecting and Kakashi tries to surprise attack/use a clone she can sense it before hand and earth bend.

Kumai isn't that fast, Ash. I remember when he was using it on Deidara and he was taking a long ass time. He only has one sharingan here, so Kamui will be slow and Korra will have time to react to it.
That was when Kakashi didn't master. He did master his 1 eye'd Kamui later on and was able to use it more precisely at a rapid succession, as you can see in the war. He warped Rasengan and kage bunshin so fast that Obito thought they were destroyed.
The version of Kakashi isn't stated in the OP, so it's automatic to choose the most skilled/powerful version, which is the version of Kakashi that mastered his Kamui. Kamui insta's Korra.

Don't know why I just saw this, but Korra still is fast enough to react. Not to mention what Kakashi Kamui'd fast were very small objects. Not to mention a water shield is the perfect counter to Kamui X whenver Kakashi uses Kamui, this is what it would end up looking like X He would only end up using Kamui on the water.
Korra speed feats:
X
X
If Korra could easily react to explosions at the last second, I don't see a problem with Kakashi.

Seismic sensing for underground sneak attacks from Kakashi are easily countered
X


X Not to mention speedy lightning reaction.

X
Korra can easily do this and have the water flood the part of the earth til Kakashi drowns to death, building water pressure.

Gotta agree with Box on this one.
  Posted on August 13, 2015 06:58
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bleacheria wrote:
6972box wrote:
Raikiri is a melee attack. A little air bending gets Kakashi and his stupid ass jutsu blown away. If he uses the range version of it, Korra can redirect it. While she's busy redirecting and Kakashi tries to surprise attack/use a clone she can sense it before hand and earth bend.

Kumai isn't that fast, Ash. I remember when he was using it on Deidara and he was taking a long ass time. He only has one sharingan here, so Kamui will be slow and Korra will have time to react to it.
That was when Kakashi didn't master. He did master his 1 eye'd Kamui later on and was able to use it more precisely at a rapid succession, as you can see in the war. He warped Rasengan and kage bunshin so fast that Obito thought they were destroyed.
The version of Kakashi isn't stated in the OP, so it's automatic to choose the most skilled/powerful version, which is the version of Kakashi that mastered his Kamui. Kamui insta's Korra.

Don't know why I just saw this, but Korra still is fast enough to react. Not to mention what Kakashi Kamui'd fast were very small objects. Not to mention a water shield is the perfect counter to Kamui X whenver Kakashi uses Kamui, this is what it would end up looking like X He would only end up using Kamui on the water.
Korra speed feats:
X
X
If Korra could easily react to explosions at the last second, I don't see a problem with Kakashi.

Seismic sensing for underground sneak attacks from Kakashi are easily countered
X


X Not to mention speedy lightning reaction.

X
Korra can easily do this and have the water flood the part of the earth til Kakashi drowns to death, building water pressure.
Water shield< raikiri dogs. I don't see her bending that.
And I don't see anything impressive about those feats. Kakashi can just focus on kamui'ing her head to make it faster and finish off her body. kek.
  Posted on August 13, 2015 07:00
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No, but they easily get blown away by wind :(
Lightning is strong against earth because it can easily travel through and break the ground apart but weak against wind because it is a natural electrical insulator.
kakashi tries to Kamui her head and it ends up being water he Kamuis (Homer)
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  Posted on August 13, 2015 07:05
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And that comparison between Gudodama shield and a watershield is inaccurate. Kakashi knew Madara was capable of dodging Kamui as he did before, so he wanted Gai to blitz him, so he made an opening. Also, Kaka couldn't see inside the dome to make an accurate warp, but he can see inside that water shield perfectly to warp whatever's in.
  Posted on August 13, 2015 07:09
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So a basic earth shield like Aang did against Ozai with Seismic sensing to predict Kakashi's moves before he even makes them. What's the problem ?
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  Posted on August 13, 2015 07:14
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So a basic earth shield like Aang did against Ozai with Seismic sensing to predict Kakashi's moves before he even makes them. What's the problem ?
Teleport the entire dome? kek
It will take time, yes, but can she do if she trapped herself in a dome? Madara would be able to predict and react to this, Korra wouldn't.
  Posted on August 13, 2015 07:18
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I'll have to take Korra on this too.

Take away Kakashis ability to use the elements as an advantage. If anything, it's a disadvantage in this fight, and he's better off not using them. Jutsu and element bending are from different fictional universes, and are entirely different concepts. Most jutsu that use elemental force revolve around summoning said element force, but not controlling it per say. For example, with fire, alot of fight based jutsu involve shooting fireballs as blasts in a straight direction, or breathing fire straight from the mouth. This isn't controlling the fire as much as shooting it as a projectile. There are a few rare exceptions (mostly the elemental dragon type moves, Zabuzas water dragon and the fire dragon Sasuke used, stuff like that).

Element bending, on the contrary, involves creating and then controlling said force to the fullest. You have far more versatility in bending, you can control the direction, shape and velocity of the element. It's much stronger and much more adaptable then simply creating the element. Even if Kakashi has more stamina and could summon higher amounts of water as an attack form (which based on seeing both shows, it feels like he could), he would literally be aiding Korra, as she'd simply take up her bending stance and change the direction of the attack.

Then you look at his Sharingan. It's also quite comparable to a tactic Korra has, known as the Avatar state. Kakashis sharingan eye has allowed him to copy the techniques of his opponents. Korras avatar state in contrast imbues her with the knowledge and skills of all her past lives before her, some very powerful benders mind you. So while Kakashi may have copied and infused himself with the knowledge and skills of thousands of worthy adversaries, Korra has access to the knowledge and skills of generations of generations of some of historys most powerful benders, all at once and all naturally. I'd give that edge to Korra as well.

So yeah, basically leaves Kakashi with his raikiri, and his kamui. As stated, kamui isn't a technique that's great in a one on one fight, or at the very least not against a semi mobile opponent. The move requires quite a bit of concentration and buildup before it can be executed, and of course the risks involved. The strain of using it on Kakashi would essentially take him out of the fight should he miss. It's sort of a double edged sword, similar to Lees lotus back in his chunin exams fight. Great if it finishes, but otherwise you're screwed. It would likely be too risky for him to even try, Korras reaction time and mobility are good enough that she could easily counter.

Ultimately, yeah, i'd still give Kakashi an edge in the intellectual department. He's a far superior strategist (though Korra does have the ability to talk to the past avatars, again a ton of knowledge to be had between all that). Even knowing that, sometimes even if you have the ability to form a plan, if you don't have the tools to put any meaningful plan into play, you're still just a sitting duck. In a one on one battle, Korras bending would top anything Kakashi can do.
  Posted on August 13, 2015 07:19
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Earth is everywhere. Lol. Teleport the dome, make another one easily and make Kakashi waste his chakra. It will take time, yes, but can she do if she trapped herself in a dome Korra traped in a dome ? Lolwut.... Why would she trap herself in a dome ?
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