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 Topic: Kakuzu vs Gai and Kakashi
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Poll: Who will win this?
26 vote(s) since October 6, 2013 22:58
Kakuzu (7) (27%)
Gai & Kakashi (19) (73%)
  Posted on October 7, 2013 02:10
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#61
spike7011 wrote:
Red_Sharigan wrote:
spike7011 wrote:
hereherehereherehereherehere
Kakashi didn't use any chakra on teh Jinchuriki's. He came from a fight before where he was alrdy worn out.
And you completely ignored the rest of what I said ._.
No, pretty much all you said i had already debated with the other guy.
I don't see the need to respond to it again and get in another big debate.
With Venomous you were merely denying and he was being lazy, so that wasn't actually a debate, he didn't supply enough proof of what he was saying and yet when I do, you completely ignore it saying that you already replied to it.
I have read this entire debate from post #1 and all of what I have seen is you denying words, merely words.
If you can deny the supplied manga pages, I will be here to read your counter.
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  Posted on October 7, 2013 02:12
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  Posted on October 7, 2013 02:13
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#63
Red_Sharigan wrote:
spike7011 wrote:
Red_Sharigan wrote:
hereherehereherehereherehere
And you completely ignored the rest of what I said ._.
No, pretty much all you said i had already debated with the other guy.
I don't see the need to respond to it again and get in another big debate.
With Venomous you were merely denying and he was being lazy, so that wasn't actually a debate, he didn't supply enough proof of what he was saying and yet when I do, you completely ignore it saying that you already replied to it.
I have read this entire debate from post #1 and all of what I have seen is you denying words, merely words.
If you can deny the supplied manga pages, I will be here to read your counter.
I don't read manga and it's pretty confusing since there's no real action in it. I dont really disagree with your 1st paragraph or the 3rd. I do with teh 2nd half of the 2nd post. I really dont feel like going through all the manga's to just reply to a debate.
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  Posted on October 7, 2013 02:26
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#64
spike7011 wrote:
Red_Sharigan wrote:
spike7011 wrote:
hereherehereherehereherehere
No, pretty much all you said i had already debated with the other guy.
I don't see the need to respond to it again and get in another big debate.
With Venomous you were merely denying and he was being lazy, so that wasn't actually a debate, he didn't supply enough proof of what he was saying and yet when I do, you completely ignore it saying that you already replied to it.
I have read this entire debate from post #1 and all of what I have seen is you denying words, merely words.
If you can deny the supplied manga pages, I will be here to read your counter.
I don't read manga and it's pretty confusing since there's no real action in it. I dont really disagree with your 1st paragraph or the 3rd. I do with teh 2nd half of the 2nd post. I really dont feel like going through all the manga's to just reply to a debate.
So does that mean I spoiled who tobi is for you?? If I did I'm really sorry, you should have said so from the beginning.

Now manga pages are the only resource used in battledoom, you can't rely on the anime because without the manga you wouldn't know what is cannon from filler, and some people don't prefer to use the naruto wikia because it can be edited by anyone.
So in order to actually debate you need to rely on manga pages and only manga pages because your memory could sometimes be a bit misleading (don't know if that is actually the word for it but w.e), meaning it will give you what you want to know be it wrong or right, I personally rarely use my memory when debating. And for you an anime watcher, you won't be able to refer back to a 21 min ep for a debate, right? So the only way is to use manga pages.

To sum up, if you want to debate in battledome, you need to be prepared with your only resource, manga scans :D. Some debaters here don't tolerate naruto.wikia users or the people who rely on their memory because they usually end up making up stuff from their own imagination and anime watchers are usually ignored because they don't know as much.

If you took the time to refer to what I supplied as evidence, you will find me right.
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  Posted on October 7, 2013 03:13
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#65
Red_Sharigan wrote:
spike7011 wrote:
Red_Sharigan wrote:
hereherehereherehereherehere
With Venomous you were merely denying and he was being lazy, so that wasn't actually a debate, he didn't supply enough proof of what he was saying and yet when I do, you completely ignore it saying that you already replied to it.
I have read this entire debate from post #1 and all of what I have seen is you denying words, merely words.
If you can deny the supplied manga pages, I will be here to read your counter.
I don't read manga and it's pretty confusing since there's no real action in it. I dont really disagree with your 1st paragraph or the 3rd. I do with teh 2nd half of the 2nd post. I really dont feel like going through all the manga's to just reply to a debate.
So does that mean I spoiled who tobi is for you?? If I did I'm really sorry, you should have said so from the beginning.

Now manga pages are the only resource used in battledoom, you can't rely on the anime because without the manga you wouldn't know what is cannon from filler, and some people don't prefer to use the naruto wikia because it can be edited by anyone.
So in order to actually debate you need to rely on manga pages and only manga pages because your memory could sometimes be a bit misleading (don't know if that is actually the word for it but w.e), meaning it will give you what you want to know be it wrong or right, I personally rarely use my memory when debating. And for you an anime watcher, you won't be able to refer back to a 21 min ep for a debate, right? So the only way is to use manga pages.

To sum up, if you want to debate in battledome, you need to be prepared with your only resource, manga scans :D. Some debaters here don't tolerate naruto.wikia users or the people who rely on their memory because they usually end up making up stuff from their own imagination and anime watchers are usually ignored because they don't know as much.

If you took the time to refer to what I supplied as evidence, you will find me right.
Thing is, the wiki is acknowledged by almost all as a credible source since it's highly unlikely for someone to edit it with jibberish. W/ the exception of Kakashi's uses of Kamui multiple times, I've backed up the wiki info w/ enough manga panels. It's just irritating for people to deny what's been proven in front of them w/ petty technicalities that can easily be countered with some common sense. -.-

And at your 1st post, Kakazu simply survived a fight with Hashi. Hashirama has been shown to be overly kind, it wasn't stated how well he did against hashi, all we know is that he lost and Hashirama more than likely let him live for unknown reasons. But there is a big difference between Hashirama and Kakashi, and that is their completely different skillsets and fighting styles. Kakashi uses well developed strategies complemented by his agility and a mastery of chakra control. With his level up during the war he's improved not only the speed at which he can use Kamui, but the consistency, and range. Kakuzu legit has no way of evading the technique, he won't even know what it is to think of substituting with an Earth clone if that's even a possible way of escaping Kamui. With Kamui Kakashi doesn't even need to worry about taking out the hearts initially since he can use Kamui from long and short distances. A Kamui aimed at Kakuzu himself will finish the fight. He's also more than capable of taking out the 5 hearts himself. Taking out the wind heart with a Kamui removes the lightning counter that Kakuzu would need in order to eliminate Kakashi's advanced Raikiri variations such as the Raikiri chain. Kakashi was able to outmaneuver multiple tailed beasts for a good amount of time after finishing up fighting in other areas if the war, evading Kakakuzu's Earth Grudge Fear is not too much of a problem since he has the agility to evade the tentacles. Also don't forget his lightning clones which are fully capable of using all of his Raikiri techniques. With the hearts limited agility, evading Raikiri's made by lightining clones will be almost impossible.

"I'm not asking you to write anything. I basically told you the layout of the battle because if he did the strategy you're saying it would end up the same result. Even if he did defeat all of kakuzu's hearts, how the fuck is he going to defeat his form where he removes all his stiches?"

Not satisfied w/ Kakashi only needing Kamui to beat Kakuzu, you askin' me to come up w/ other ways for him to beat Kakuzu. Not only this, but you deny strategies involving techniques he didn't use in his fight with Kakuzu and use 'he already tried that' as a credible counter. -.-

Edit: @below: Kakuzu was op dk whatchu talkin' bout lol. Also I think he was revived in the manga also just didn't get a lot of showtime because he's not an Uchiha or related to any kages.
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  Posted on October 7, 2013 09:08
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Uh yes. Gai and Kakuzu has this. Especially given both their current resume. Kazuzus stopped developing at his death. He wasnt even resurrected by Edo Tensei. This means, his skill wasnt so overly great to have been of any unique use.
  Posted on October 7, 2013 14:40
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Obviously, this topic isn't worth debating on. clearly the victor is obvious, it can go either way, but Kakashi and Gai have a higher win chance than our friend Kakuzu does. So my two cents on the matter:

Kakashi would be too busy reading his book to himself, then Gai gives Kakuzu a dollar and while Kakuzu makes out with the dollar, Gai does dynamic entry up Kakuzu's mouth, which then makes Kakuzu choke on the dollar. Gai celebrates his victory by doing a handstand around the battleground.
  Posted on October 7, 2013 23:13
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Uh yes. Gai and Kakuzu has this. Especially given both their current resume. Kazuzus stopped developing at his death. He wasnt even resurrected by Edo Tensei. This means, his skill wasnt so overly great to have been of any unique use.

He was... He came out in the main group with everyone else... appearing early in the battle near the Beach... Izumo and Kotetsu delt with him for a time... Darui's squad engaged him if I remember correctly... then Chouji finished the job... He was there around the same time Asuma was for chapter reference...


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  Posted on October 7, 2013 23:17
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Well I think kakashi and Gai would win but as far as 1v1 that would be a better fight kakuzu beats kakashi if the fight goes for longer than 10 moves kakashi is a bruiser he is meant to kill fast and if he can't get kakuzu fast he will lose.

As for Gai I don't see him losing to kakuzu under no circumstances he beat kisame 1v1 who would rape kakuzu in my opinion.
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  Posted on October 8, 2013 01:07
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Kakashi dies and Gai takes Kakuzu down.
  Posted on October 8, 2013 21:20
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KrapKicker wrote:
markua wrote:
Uh yes. Gai and Kakuzu has this. Especially given both their current resume. Kazuzus stopped developing at his death. He wasnt even resurrected by Edo Tensei. This means, his skill wasnt so overly great to have been of any unique use.

He was... He came out in the main group with everyone else... appearing early in the battle near the Beach... Izumo and Kotetsu delt with him for a time... Darui's squad engaged him if I remember correctly... then Chouji finished the job... He was there around the same time Asuma was for chapter reference...

Really? o.o lol Well Ill be damned I dont remember Kakuzu at all.
  Posted on October 9, 2013 00:43
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markua wrote:
KrapKicker wrote:
markua wrote:
Uh yes. Gai and Kakuzu has this. Especially given both their current resume. Kazuzus stopped developing at his death. He wasnt even resurrected by Edo Tensei. This means, his skill wasnt so overly great to have been of any unique use.

He was... He came out in the main group with everyone else... appearing early in the battle near the Beach... Izumo and Kotetsu delt with him for a time... Darui's squad engaged him if I remember correctly... then Chouji finished the job... He was there around the same time Asuma was for chapter reference...

Really? o.o lol Well Ill be damned I dont remember Kakuzu at all.
Yeah, Krapkicker is right. He first came out while Darui was fighting Gin/Kin, but it was only for a short moment as all he did was state "I haven't seen Kinkaku so wiled up for a long time. Somebody must've taken out Ginkaku" after Gin was sealed and Kin went on that Kyuubi rampage.

He appeared again (and for the last time) after Gin/Kin were both sealed, where Shikamaru stated "We have taken your silver and gold." He replied stating he also had their (Shika and co's) "silver and gold," referring to Asuma and Dan. Then he got sealed after being attacked by Izumo and Kotetsu.
  Posted on October 9, 2013 00:44
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2nd team wins :P
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