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  Posted on August 2, 2013 21:51
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How does Madara dodge or counter a Jinton that is capable of destroying an entire island? Susanoo can't tank it, because it creates anything it hits into dust. The only way Madara could stop it is with Preta Path, but since it's only EMS Madara, he'd get shitted on by it.

In case you forgot, Madara soloed both Ohnoki and Mu without his Rinnegan and defeated them. Madara woukd be dead by now if his perfect Susanoo could not tank Jinto.
Yes, but we don't know any details of the fight. Plus Oonoki and Mu would have been careful not to use a full strength Jinton, as they would end up risking killing their partner. Since Mu is by himself, he won't have to worry about killing Oonoki and could go all out with his Jinton.
That's my theory. Muu would have destroyed the village. And on top of that, all we saw was Oonoki bruised up with Muu standing next to him. Oonoki simply asked why Madara attacked them. There could be many scenarios behind that.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 04:58
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Shadow_Minato wrote:
EvanGrant wrote:
Phonasthenia wrote:
In case you forgot, Madara soloed both Ohnoki and Mu without his Rinnegan and defeated them. Madara woukd be dead by now if his perfect Susanoo could not tank Jinto.
Yes, but we don't know any details of the fight. Plus Oonoki and Mu would have been careful not to use a full strength Jinton, as they would end up risking killing their partner. Since Mu is by himself, he won't have to worry about killing Oonoki and could go all out with his Jinton.
That's my theory. Muu would have destroyed the village. And on top of that, all we saw was Oonoki bruised up with Muu standing next to him. Oonoki simply asked why Madara attacked them. There could be many scenarios behind that.

It doesn't matter. Ohnoki and Muu can fly so if Muu would use Jinton, Ohnoki would just fly as high as high as he wants to avoid being damaged.

Again, Madara's perfect Susanoo can tank it.

By your logic, Muu is stronger than the 5 kages combined which is so false. It only takes 1 kage to kill Muu. For example, The Second Mizukage killed him.

Kishi and Naruto wikia made it clear in writing and illustration that Madara makes Muu look like an ant.

Madara is stronger than ET Muu. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

End of story
  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:22
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Phonasthenia wrote:
Shadow_Minato wrote:
EvanGrant wrote:
Yes, but we don't know any details of the fight. Plus Oonoki and Mu would have been careful not to use a full strength Jinton, as they would end up risking killing their partner. Since Mu is by himself, he won't have to worry about killing Oonoki and could go all out with his Jinton.
That's my theory. Muu would have destroyed the village. And on top of that, all we saw was Oonoki bruised up with Muu standing next to him. Oonoki simply asked why Madara attacked them. There could be many scenarios behind that.

It doesn't matter. Ohnoki and Muu can fly so if Muu would use Jinton, Ohnoki would just fly as high as high as he wants to avoid being damaged.

Again, Madara's perfect Susanoo can tank it.

By your logic, Muu is stronger than the 5 kages combined which is so false. It only takes 1 kage to kill Muu. For example, The Second Mizukage killed him.

Kishi and Naruto wikia made it clear in writing and illistration that Madara makes Muu look like an ant.

Madara is stronger than ET Muu. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

End of story
Lmfao.

The country can't fly, we don't know the conditions in which the fight took place.

How does Madara's Susanoo tank a jutsu that disassembles things to molecular levels? By being big? Mountains are big, didn't save them from Jinton.

What logic are they using that allowed you to come to that conclusion? Please, ellaborate.

I missed that part. When was this?

Oh yes because Madara can seal him with that...Yeah?
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  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:25
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Phonasthenia wrote:
Shadow_Minato wrote:
EvanGrant wrote:
Yes, but we don't know any details of the fight. Plus Oonoki and Mu would have been careful not to use a full strength Jinton, as they would end up risking killing their partner. Since Mu is by himself, he won't have to worry about killing Oonoki and could go all out with his Jinton.
That's my theory. Muu would have destroyed the village. And on top of that, all we saw was Oonoki bruised up with Muu standing next to him. Oonoki simply asked why Madara attacked them. There could be many scenarios behind that.

1) It doesn't matter. Ohnoki and Muu can fly so if Muu would use Jinton, Ohnoki would just fly as high as high as he wants to avoid being damaged.

2) Again, Madara's perfect Susanoo can tank it.

3) By your logic, Muu is stronger than the 5 kages combined which is so false.

4) It only takes 1 kage to kill Muu. For example, The Second Mizukage killed him.

5) Kishi and Naruto wikia made it clear in writing and illustration that Madara makes Muu look like an ant.

Madara is stronger than ET Muu. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

End of story
That settles it. You are an idiot.

1) Read the post again. It's not Oonoki alone he would have had to avoid hurting. The entire area would have been blown the fuck up. And you have absolutely no proof that Oonoki even knew how to levitate at the time.

2) Complete bullshit. I already explained why it can't. Please read previous posts.

3) If that's the conclusion you have come to, then you are an absolute fool. My logic implies nothing of the sort.

4) Stupid point. You are going by fights that no one has seen. And this actually has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

5) The fact that you use this as an argument is just plain pathetic. You can't even prove that Madara is stronger than Muu. All you're doing is spouting bullshit.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:27
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This is freaking retarded.
It is a proven manga fact that the only person who can handle Madara Uchiha is Hashirama Senjuu, its been stated more than 3 times. How in the world is this a debate?
@Phonas: Agreed.
How did this shit pass page 1...
  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:32
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The_Seed wrote:
This is freaking retarded.
It is a proven manga fact that the only person who can handle Madara Uchiha is Hashirama Senjuu, its been stated more than 3 times. How in the world is this a debate?
@Phonas: Agreed.
How did this shit pass page 1... :huh

I couldn't have said it better myself especially "How did this shit pass page 1..."
  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:33
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The_Seed wrote:
This is freaking retarded.
It is a proven manga fact that the only person who can handle Madara Uchiha is Hashirama Senjuu, its been stated more than 3 times. How in the world is this a debate?
@Phonas: Agreed.
How did this shit pass page 1... :huh

Listen to me, even if Kishi illustrated that Madara can eat planets like Galactus people are still going to say Konohamaru can wipe the floor with him.

The level of ignorance is as unbelievable as a a phenomenal Wii.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:35
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Shadow_Minato wrote:
Phonasthenia wrote:
Shadow_Minato wrote:
That's my theory. Muu would have destroyed the village. And on top of that, all we saw was Oonoki bruised up with Muu standing next to him. Oonoki simply asked why Madara attacked them. There could be many scenarios behind that.

1) It doesn't matter. Ohnoki and Muu can fly so if Muu would use Jinton, Ohnoki would just fly as high as high as he wants to avoid being damaged.

2) Again, Madara's perfect Susanoo can tank it.

3) By your logic, Muu is stronger than the 5 kages combined which is so false.

4) It only takes 1 kage to kill Muu. For example, The Second Mizukage killed him.

5) Kishi and Naruto wikia made it clear in writing and illustration that Madara makes Muu look like an ant.

Madara is stronger than ET Muu. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

End of story
That settles it. You are an idiot.

1) Read the post again. It's not Oonoki alone he would have had to avoid hurting. The entire area would have been blown the fuck up. And you have absolutely no proof that Oonoki even knew how to levitate at the time.

2) Complete bullshit. I already explained why it can't. Please read previous posts.

3) If that's the conclusion you have come to, then you are an absolute fool. My logic implies nothing of the sort.

4) Stupid point. You are going by fights that no one has seen. And this actually has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

5) The fact that you use this as an argument is just plain pathetic. You can't even prove that Madara is stronger than Muu. All you're doing is spouting bullshit.

There is a whole bunch of proof that Madara is stronger than Muu. Susanoo and Heaven Concealed. 2 skills that will easily kill Muu. If Edo Tensei wasn't there Madara would've killed himself and Muu in the Double Meteorite. Madara is the best. Like Seed said, Hashirama is the only person to defeat Madara.
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  Posted on August 3, 2013 05:38
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#39
The_Seed wrote:
This is freaking retarded.
It is a proven manga fact that the only person who can handle Madara Uchiha is Hashirama Senjuu, its been stated more than 3 times. How in the world is this a debate?
@Phonas: Agreed.
How did this shit pass page 1... :huh
Because Mu is Edo.
Phonasthenia wrote:
The_Seed wrote:
This is freaking retarded.
It is a proven manga fact that the only person who can handle Madara Uchiha is Hashirama Senjuu, its been stated more than 3 times. How in the world is this a debate?
@Phonas: Agreed.
How did this shit pass page 1... :huh

Listen to me, even if Kishi illustrated that Madara can eat planets like Galactus people are still going to say Konohamaru can wipe the floor with him.

The level of ignorance is as unbelievable as a a phenomenal Wii.
Please refrain from making any comments relating to another's intelligence. Not after recreating someone else's logic to create such a failed interpretation of what another is saying.
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  Posted on August 3, 2013 06:03
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Phonasthenia wrote:
The_Seed wrote:
This is freaking retarded.
It is a proven manga fact that the only person who can handle Madara Uchiha is Hashirama Senjuu, its been stated more than 3 times. How in the world is this a debate?
@Phonas: Agreed.
How did this shit pass page 1... :huh

Listen to me, even if Kishi illustrated that Madara can eat planets like Galactus people are still going to say Konohamaru can wipe the floor with him.

The level of ignorance is as unbelievable as a a phenomenal Wii.
"Konohamaru beats Madara" Said no one ever...

Anyways, like I already said, Jinton turns anything it comes into contact with into dust. Susanoo can't tank it. It would be turned into dust just like anything else would. The only way it could tank it is if it were bigger than the Jinton, but since the Jinton can destroy a fucking island, Susanoo isn't bigger than it.

T-BoyXkid wrote:
Shadow_Minato wrote:
Phonasthenia wrote:
1) It doesn't matter. Ohnoki and Muu can fly so if Muu would use Jinton, Ohnoki would just fly as high as high as he wants to avoid being damaged.

2) Again, Madara's perfect Susanoo can tank it.

3) By your logic, Muu is stronger than the 5 kages combined which is so false.

4) It only takes 1 kage to kill Muu. For example, The Second Mizukage killed him.

5) Kishi and Naruto wikia made it clear in writing and illustration that Madara makes Muu look like an ant.

Madara is stronger than ET Muu. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

End of story
That settles it. You are an idiot.

1) Read the post again. It's not Oonoki alone he would have had to avoid hurting. The entire area would have been blown the fuck up. And you have absolutely no proof that Oonoki even knew how to levitate at the time.

2) Complete bullshit. I already explained why it can't. Please read previous posts.

3) If that's the conclusion you have come to, then you are an absolute fool. My logic implies nothing of the sort.

4) Stupid point. You are going by fights that no one has seen. And this actually has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

5) The fact that you use this as an argument is just plain pathetic. You can't even prove that Madara is stronger than Muu. All you're doing is spouting bullshit.

There is a whole bunch of proof that Madara is stronger than Muu. Susanoo and Heaven Concealed. 2 skills that will easily kill Muu. If Edo Tensei wasn't there Madara would've killed himself and Muu in the Double Meteorite. Madara is the best. Like Seed said, Hashirama is the only person to defeat Madara.
If Madara used Heaven Concealed, he'd die too. So it wouldn't exactly be a victory for Madara

As for the whole Susanoo thing, Mu can fly to be out of range of it, and also he can turn invisible, so Madara won't even know where he is.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 06:17
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All I have to say is...
KCM1 Naruto, with a little help from Gaara's sand, was able to land a hit on Mu.
KCM2 Naruto, the same Naruto who deflected 5 bijuu bombs before impact, was defeated by Madara with a freaking fan.

I rest my case.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 06:18
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T-BoyXkid wrote:
Shadow_Minato wrote:
Phonasthenia wrote:
1) It doesn't matter. Ohnoki and Muu can fly so if Muu would use Jinton, Ohnoki would just fly as high as high as he wants to avoid being damaged.

2) Again, Madara's perfect Susanoo can tank it.

3) By your logic, Muu is stronger than the 5 kages combined which is so false.

4) It only takes 1 kage to kill Muu. For example, The Second Mizukage killed him.

5) Kishi and Naruto wikia made it clear in writing and illustration that Madara makes Muu look like an ant.

Madara is stronger than ET Muu. This shouldn't even be up for debate.

End of story
That settles it. You are an idiot.

1) Read the post again. It's not Oonoki alone he would have had to avoid hurting. The entire area would have been blown the fuck up. And you have absolutely no proof that Oonoki even knew how to levitate at the time.

2) Complete bullshit. I already explained why it can't. Please read previous posts.

3) If that's the conclusion you have come to, then you are an absolute fool. My logic implies nothing of the sort.

4) Stupid point. You are going by fights that no one has seen. And this actually has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

5) The fact that you use this as an argument is just plain pathetic. You can't even prove that Madara is stronger than Muu. All you're doing is spouting bullshit.

There is a whole bunch of proof that Madara is stronger than Muu

Susanoo and Heaven Concealed. 2 skills that will easily kill Muu. If Edo Tensei wasn't there Madara would've killed himself and Muu in the Double Meteorite. Madara is the best. Like Seed said, Hashirama is the only person to defeat Madara.
I was going to stop reading here, but I decided to respond to this post for laughs...

Susano'o cannot withstand Jinton. Plain and simple. Please stop trying to deny this. There are only 3 ways to counter this technique. Yata Mirror, get the fuck out of the area (which is impossible for most characters), or absorb it. You know, instead of explaining it, allow me to direct you here.
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Madara's Susano'o does not have the defensive treasure Yata Mirror, so he has no way to stop this technique. The complete Susano'o isn't even an upgrade in the standard Susano'o defense as far as we know, and even if it was, it is nowhere near enough to stop what is probably the strongest offensive technique in the series.
Hell, Oonoki already destroyed 25 Susano'os at once with a single Jinton. Please don't try to tell me that Susano'o is enough to stop it. You're bullshitting.

In addition to the fact that Muu can become invisible... I don't get how you can seriously say that Muu loses this.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 06:30
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Lmao, when you've got Shadow, Evan, AND Venom tearing at your ass at the same time, you know you fucked up.
  Posted on August 3, 2013 08:46
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That settles it. You are an idiot.

1) Read the post again. It's not Oonoki alone he would have had to avoid hurting. The entire area would have been blown the fuck up. And you have absolutely no proof that Oonoki even knew how to levitate at the time.

2) Complete bullshit. I already explained why it can't. Please read previous posts.

3) If that's the conclusion you have come to, then you are an absolute fool. My logic implies nothing of the sort.

4) Stupid point. You are going by fights that no one has seen. And this actually has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

5) The fact that you use this as an argument is just plain pathetic. You can't even prove that Madara is stronger than Muu. All you're doing is spouting bullshit.

Madara Uchiha wins.

I wrote:



1. a.) It doesn't matter if it can blow up an entire area. Madara's Susanoo can endure it without having a scratch and here are the testimonies.



The Ten-Tails' Tenpenchii







Madara's perfect Susanoo prowess





Muu is weaker than Madara



Muu's power is useless against Madara's perfect Susanoo






b.) Why should I have to prove if old Ohnoki in his younger years can levitate? That's like asking me to prove that the 3rd Hokage can use the Substitution Jutsu. Isn't it obvious?

2. No you haven't. Ohnoki never pulverized Madara's perfect Susanoo nor is he capable of doing so. Read point 1.

3. Actually it does and in reality you're the fool. Saying that Muu can beat Madara is also indirectly saying Muu can defeat the 5 kages with ease. This is you - > "Muu can blow up an entire area and also the ultimate defense with his Jinton. Why not fly sky high and then blow up all 5 kages with Jinton because they can't avoid nor defend that?"

4. LOL .

a.) Why should the fight be seen if Kishi wrote that Muu was killed by the second Mizukage? Do you I need to prove that obvious fact as well?

b.) That fight has everything to do with the topic because it goes to show that Muu can be soloed and defeated by someone who is a fillion times weaker than Madara.

5. You can't even prove that this point is "pathetic." You're defense is "well, that's pathetic." How weak and pathetic you're counter is if it even qualifies to be one. By the way, read point 1 again.





I rest my case
  Posted on August 3, 2013 10:15
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Most ignorant mothafucka alive

1) Bullshit. Onoki's Jinton destroyed 25 fully powered Susano'os with a single use of Jinton, and the strength of the technique was not being modified, only its size. I don't know how to explain this to you, since you clearly have never learned comprehension... Think of it as someone with a sword piercing through 10 flak jackets at once. Then someone comes along with a very shiny but only slightly stronger flak jacket. You're pretty much saying that the sword wouldn't be able to pierce that new flak jacket.
Now, you know yourself that Muu's Jinton is on an equal level to Oonoki's. I don't get why this is so fucking hard for you to understand... The Susano'o cannot defend against the Jinton. Madara's perfect Susano'o does not gain any additional defensive power. It only grows in size and enables an entirely new scale of offensive power. Think for a second... Hashirama can't use the Jinton and he was able to fight against it.

2) Utter bullshit. I think I might just quit after this post. I can explain something to you and your response is just "no." Fucking idiot... I think you're USSJ's retarded long lost brother.

3) *facepalm*
This proves you cannot read, or you don't understand what the fuck you're reading. If you need me to post it in a different language, I will try. I said, and easily proved, that Muu's Jinton would destroy the Susano'o. Now you said Muu is stronger than the Kages. That's just fucking idiotic. You must be inbred to come out this stupid.

4) Actually, it doesn't, because we haven't seen it. That's like saying Ao is powerful because he is still alive after fighting with Shisui and witnessing his power first hand. It's a fight we didn't see, idiot. And you clearly don't understand shit... They both died.

5) In conclusion, I have decided that you are either mentally disrupted and just terribly uninformed. Everything about your post is all idiotic shit. You deny absolute proof and go by assumptions. Half of your assumptions are based off of things we didn't see happen.
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