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  Posted on December 17, 2011 18:16
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Show me in the manga where she can duplicate her mind you stupid motherfucker. She split her chakra so that she can partially control 2 Zetsus, which is why they had to be unconcious. It takes her full chakra to take over someone that is well and alive.

Well no shit, it can see through reqular illusion imagea, AKA clone jutsu. But it can't see through shadow clone you dumb fuck. And you;re a retard. Shadow Clones do have chakra flow. Which is the reason why they can't be told apart from each other.
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  Posted on December 17, 2011 18:26
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Show me in the manga where she can duplicate her mind you stupid motherfucker. She split her chakra so that she can partially control 2 Zetsus, which is why they had to be unconcious. It takes her full chakra to take over someone that is well and alive.

Well no shit, it can see through reqular illusion imagea, AKA clone jutsu. But it can't see through shadow clone you dumb fuck. And you;re a retard. Shadow Clones do have chakra flow. Which is the reason why they can't be told apart from each other.

rofl.. you make me laugh even harder..

She can transfer her mind into two zetsu.. The Zetsu moves and attacks Asuma but they didn't do it exactly the same.. goodness.. you really do need to go to school.. Nowhere did they said that the zetsu have to be unconscious.. stop making things up.. not cool.. and you continued it by spectaculating.. meaning, you have no evidence or proof..

Clones and Shadow clones are different.. You clearly said clones from your post.. Unless you changed it while Im typing all this up.. And well yeah.. mixed it around, but you clearly know what I mean by me saying clones doesn't have chakra flow.. let me rephrase what i said before

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Byakugan can indeed see through shadow clones idiot.. But they can't see through clones.. Clones doesn't have chakra flow in them that's why.. I call you idiot for calling me idiot as well for no reason..
  Posted on December 17, 2011 18:29
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Lol, what's going on here? Gtfo with this flamming shit.


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Wikipedia
Alot of people have been going entirely by what wikipedia has down, even though they got raped by Kishi and bitch-slapped on thier Tobi/Madara page. Wikipedia states that Byakugan can see through clones, which is incorrect. It states,going by the stats, that Kakashi is better than Kabuto in "part 1", which I assume is the beginning of the series. But at the same time, Orochimaru stated in manga that Kakashi and Kabuto are equal.
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  Posted on December 18, 2011 07:10
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"People seem to think that Hinata is still weak. However, we saw her spar with Pain, and almost land a few good hits in him too, while also avoiding som"
filler. she charged once and got almost killed in one shot,
  Posted on December 18, 2011 17:36
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Yeah, Hinata can't beat Pain. Non-sense.
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  Posted on December 19, 2011 22:29
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Deidara's Final Art

People seem to think that Deidara can simply self-destruct himself and at least tie every battle in the battledome. However, this is simply not the case. For starters, it took him time to prepare. In addition, even after he used it, Sasuke survived by summoning Manda. We could safely assume that any character (other than Lee) could just make a substitution and get away. We never saw his jutsu effectively kill anybody.
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  Posted on December 19, 2011 22:42
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Not really. A substitution will still have you inside the 10 km radius of the explosion, so it wouldn't help. And it doesn't take time to prepare before hand. It takes time in the battle, and not long.


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  Posted on December 19, 2011 22:52
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Well, this is certainly a sight for sore eyes. I'm glad to see someone actually cares to point out some of these common issues.

Might I recommend, though, that you branch off of just Naruto? I know that Naruto alone is a lot of work, but the Battledome does cover any and all manga/anime series. Just a thought there.

I've seen some spamming and flaming on here, though. I'm letting the spam by with a verbal warning, but keep it on topic from now on.

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  Posted on December 20, 2011 03:58
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NelielChan wrote:
Well, this is certainly a sight for sore eyes. I'm glad to see someone actually cares to point out some of these common issues.

Might I recommend, though, that you branch off of just Naruto? I know that Naruto alone is a lot of work, but the Battledome does cover any and all manga/anime series. Just a thought there.

I've seen some spamming and flaming on here, though. I'm letting the spam by with a verbal warning, but keep it on topic from now on.

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Thank you! And we will definitely keep it on topic from now on!

@Boss-Man-Swag: For the sake of overall helpfulness in the Battledome, this will officially branch off into all manga/anime. Due to my limited manga readings (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, most of Rurouni Kenshin), however, I will need quite a bit of help on other mangas and animes.


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  Posted on December 20, 2011 18:43
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Bleach vs. Naruto
This is a misconception on every forum I've posted on. They automitaclly say "Bleach. Naruto characters cannot see them." but if you are putting Bleach up against any other anime or manga, the basics of fighting still stand. They are battling on equal terms, sort of. They are able to see each other for the battle by default.

Genjutsu
It has already been stated that genjutsu disrupts chakra. Non-Naruto characters cannot be affected by this, due to them having no chakra. Enough said.
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  Posted on December 21, 2011 20:32
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For the Sake of any battledome fight, i have to explain the energy systems of each anime in a pretty short summary

1.) chakra ≠ Ki, reiatsu, or Kai - but is equal to Reiryoku & chi
this is because both charka and reiryoku are found internally with vast quantities in spiraling pools. they can all be exerted from the body and can be blocked. based off of the anime's Naruto, Bleach, and Avatar the last airbender. I would like to note that Chi from avatar is useable by anyone thats an bender, but only the avatar has the ability to access all Chi pools

2.) Natural energy = Ki, Reiatsu and kai
Why? Because They are all absorbed through the body from the outside and are possessed by the surrounding area. Naruto's Natural energy comes from the nature around him, Reiastu is a form of reishi that coats the buildings, and Kai/ Ki comes from the Planet.

So this means:

Ty lee could block Neji's chakra, and he could block her Chi, but neither of them could block ichigo's energy until he had released it from his body.

Neji nor ty lee could block naturo's natrual energy absorption since the chakra from the outside is not affecting his internal chakra system until he decides to use a chakra based attack
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  Posted on January 22, 2012 18:05
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Baki's Sudden Strike

It's not actually a jutsu...it is only a fast punch in the anime, that naruto-arena made into a move. It is only a punch.
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  Posted on January 29, 2012 12:51
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r_starks wrote:
2.) Natural energy = Ki, Reiatsu and kai
Why? Because They are all absorbed through the body from the outside and are possessed by the surrounding area. Naruto's Natural energy comes from the nature around him, Reiastu is a form of reishi that coats the buildings, and Kai/ Ki comes from the Planet.

So this means:

Ty lee could block Neji's chakra, and he could block her Chi, but neither of them could block ichigo's energy until he had released it from his body.

Neji nor ty lee could block naturo's natrual energy absorption since the chakra from the outside is not affecting his internal chakra system until he decides to use a chakra based attack
Chakra vs Reiyoku
*hiss* I will end this misconception now. I have gone too long trying to prove this wrong.

Basic Definition time:
Chakra: it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) gained from exercise and experience
-Narutopedia

Chakra is the combination of energy made from physical and mental energy.

Reiryoku: a power aligned with the spiritual sensitivity and willpower of the user.
-Bleach Wikia

Reiryoku is pure power or "energy" that is derived from the sixth sense and willpower. Exertion of this Reiryoku to incapacitate an enemy is called reiatsu. It also the Bleach's universe's explanation of why humans can see ghosts and why ghosts/humans can get supernatural powers.

As you can see, one is made from physical and mental labors of a person and another is a preset source of energy heavily involved with ghosts. One needs to travel throughout the chakra circulation system of the body. The others requires no such thing. Also according to Naruto, chakra is strictly for the living because it requires a living being to make. You can run out of chakra while with Reiyroku, you only drop because of exhaustion not depletion of Reiyoku.

The reason Neji can block the chakra flow of people is because he attacks the tenketsu(the 365 points along the chakra circulation) of a living being. With Bleach and DB characters, even if you made them possess this chakra network(which is impossible by the way), than it would be useless to strike as they derive their energy from the sixth sense or the inner body itself. These are three totally different energy outputs and such sealing methods of such outputs would only work on the outputs given to each character.

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Neji: Can only do jyuuken on the humans of the Bleach/DBZ universe as they possess the chakra circulation system. However, they can still perform all their techniques as Reiyoku doesn't rely on the chakra circulation network and Ki is life force that doesn't need to be formed before using, just drawn out.

Urahara's seal:
Can only seal being who possess Reiyoku. However, since every human/ghost contains some sort of Reiyoku no matter how small, he can seal any d**n person he wants.

DragonBall:
I got nothing after 20 minute search.

To conclude, Reiyoku(Which is what we mistaken as Reiatsu lots of times)=/=Chakra=/=Ki which means each universe is unable to inhibit the other's energy.
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  Posted on January 30, 2012 02:22
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Hmm, a bit too long to put in the thread. Is there any way you could possibly make it shorter?


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  Posted on February 8, 2012 22:43
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Minato-Sempai wrote:
Hmm, a bit too long to put in the thread. Is there any way you could possibly make it shorter?


it seems like he's saying that no energy system is the same as another, meaning that any match betwixt two characters from separate anime is automatically a mismatch [ or improper matching so to speak]

Also @ Tupapi:
im sorry that i have gotten my definitions of reiatsu and reiyoku mixed with each other once again. since i am an avid naruto watcher, and i dont really care for bleach as much, i do tend to get the definitions mixed up. but basically we were trying to prove the same thing it seems

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what i basically said was since every type of energy equals every other type of energy in a triangular patteren, they are all neutral to one another and would cancel each other out


You wrote:
Since No energy is equal to another, they would be irrelevant to compare and would cancel out by default

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