What happened to today's music?


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  Posted on January 27, 2017 02:03
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I mean, HELLO? When did music become all about partying, sex and smoking weed?
When did creatures like Snoop Dogg, Wiz Khalifa and other weed obsessed homunculi become role models for younger generations (mine included, I'm only 20 duh)? I mean, how did we get from Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye to this?

Seriously, most popular music from the last two decades makes me wanna puke my intestines. It's literally meaningless, shallow, superficial and just plain disgusting. What bothers me the most is that the so called ARTISTS behind this music are literally being worshiped. Let's start with THE WHITE KING OF THE BLACK MUSIC - MR LYRICAL GENIUS EMINEM. Hello?

I will never understand how one spiteful white frat-boy became THE KING OF HIP HOP. I've read a lot of his lyrics and all I see is hate and anger. I mean, ok, I get that he had a rough life prior to his success but that doesn't justify his hateful and misogynistic songs. Many other successful people have had rough childhood but they don't all sing/talk about killing women. Hello? I've asked many Eminem fans what the hell do they like about his dumb hateful songs and all I get as an answer is - DUDE, U JUST DON'T GET DA MESSAGE. WELL, OK DARLING, EXPLAIN ME THE GODDAMN MESSAGE I OBVIOUSLY FAIL SO HARD TO SEE. All I see in his and a lot of other rap songs is one big FUCK YOU to the world. Unfortunately publicly saying FUCK U to everything won't fix your problems, it just shows the world how fucked up you really are. SORRY.

Let's talk about someone more recent. Like the two crackheads I mentioned above - Poop Dogg and Jizz Khalifa. Promoting weed smoking seems to be a trend now. That repulsive little androgynous hillbilly- Miley has also joined the club. She claims that she is "telling her story" through her music but all I see her do is masturbate and smoke weed on stage. Hello? Nice story you've got there girl! I don't want to turn this into a weed debate but people really should understand that daily weed smokers are unconscious nihilists who secretly despise themselves. I don't mind people smoking pot at parties but if it becomes a daily habit - you are probably just another emotionally damaged lost child who needs to find other ways to fix his problems asap. Don't want to offend anyone.

LET'S TALK ABOUT PEOPLE'S FAVORITE MR KANYE WEST.
Sorry darlings but when I look at Mr. West, all I see is a poor little lost soul with anger issues who is obviously having a chronic existential crisis. Again role-model for a lot of people. Puke

And let's not forget about the new guy - the one with the gross hair fetish and confused suicidal look - THE WEEKND. YEEEAAAH SUCH AN AMAZING ARTIST WITH SO MUCH DEPTH IN HIS MUSIC WOOOOOW
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

No wonder a society that worships these individuals elected a repugnant pumpkin-head sugar daddy for president.

I MEAN HELLO?? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLDDDDDDDD

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  Posted on January 27, 2017 02:28
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  Posted on January 27, 2017 03:47
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Sex sells, it's the generation we're in.

Although I think youre generalizing music with this post lol
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  Posted on January 27, 2017 03:49
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Sex sells, it's the generation we're in.

Although I think youre generalizing music with this post lol

I'm generalizing mainstream music only.

Also it's obvious that sex sells my question is WHY does sex sell. I mean, don't get me wrong I'm not against sex in general I just think that it shouldn't be the thing everything revolves around.

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  Posted on January 27, 2017 04:04
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music doesn't always have to have a good "meaning". it just has to sound good. a nice beat, a nice voice, a nice whatever-the-fuck is going on in electro. i think songs where there is only a piano playing sounds great, but the songs have no applicable meaning. i like the songs because they sound good to me. loosen up, kid
  Posted on January 27, 2017 04:13
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tortoise_impaler wrote:
music doesn't always have to have a good "meaning". it just has to sound good. a nice beat, a nice voice, a nice whatever-the-fuck is going on in electro. i think songs where there is only a piano playing sounds great, but the songs have no applicable meaning. i like the songs because they sound good to me. loosen up, kid

I didn't say that all music has to have a good "meaning". I also like music without vocals just because of the sound itself, I haven't said anything against that. I think there should be different kinds of music - meaningful music, entertaining music etc. The problem is that today the meaningful music is completely lost and people constantly imply that the music of some of these mainstream artists is meaningful while it's actually not. It's shallow and stupid. Get it now, adult? ;D

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  Posted on January 27, 2017 04:15
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lol you never seen the video clip for girls on film?

The same shit has always sold

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  Posted on January 27, 2017 04:23
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Itachi-dani wrote:
tortoise_impaler wrote:
music doesn't always have to have a good "meaning". it just has to sound good. a nice beat, a nice voice, a nice whatever-the-fuck is going on in electro. i think songs where there is only a piano playing sounds great, but the songs have no applicable meaning. i like the songs because they sound good to me. loosen up, kid

I didn't say that all music has to have a good "meaning". I also like music without vocals just because of the sound itself, I haven't said anything against that. I think there should be different kinds of music - meaningful music, entertaining music etc. The problem is that today the meaningful music is completely lost and people constantly imply that the music of some of these mainstream artists is meaningful while it's actually not. It's shallow and stupid. Get it now, adult? ;D
idk tbh i think u just need to drink more lean and fuck more bitches
  Posted on January 27, 2017 05:18
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Listen to your own shit, ignore everyone else, and live life.

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  Posted on January 27, 2017 05:26
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Nothing really happened, new genres varied over the years as we're not still stuck listening classical and more people prefer it modern rather than that. I doubt it has much to do with the lyrics since 'music' itself is first sounds, tunes and rhythm before any words. Logically first you like that and then the meaning of words, no?
  Posted on January 27, 2017 05:38
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  Posted on January 27, 2017 07:03
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For one, pop music is insanely easy to listen to ie it's catchy; there's a consistent and expected beat along with repetitive lyrics.

If you ask a huge selection of pop-music listeners what their favourite song is, I doubt they would say something you expect them to, like I Can't Feel My Face or whatever else is trendy at that time.

People still like deep emotional songs that strike a cord with them, but someone who's very similar to me might hate my favourite song that's special to me, so what should the radio play to appease everyone? Mindless pop music that no one's really going to say no to, that's what.

As for the artists you mentioned being glorified to death, I can't answer that one yet, but I'm going to guess it's simply because of the boom of the Internet and wide reach an artist can get + selling out to make more money and get into impressionable kid's heads.
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  Posted on January 27, 2017 09:01
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Itachi-dani wrote:
tortoise_impaler wrote:
music doesn't always have to have a good "meaning". it just has to sound good. a nice beat, a nice voice, a nice whatever-the-fuck is going on in electro. i think songs where there is only a piano playing sounds great, but the songs have no applicable meaning. i like the songs because they sound good to me. loosen up, kid

I think there should be different kinds of music - meaningful music, entertaining music etc.

The problem is that today the meaningful music is completely lost and people constantly imply that the music of some of these mainstream artists is meaningful while it's actually not.

Meaning is subjective. watface.

So is entertainment. Many cultures find many things entertaining and this extends to music. Many people hold their own individual values towards things and this extends through judgement and self-satisfaction.

Please. Music is not a subject towards the objective reality. Have fun with it.

Why do you care anyway. I understand this engagement in the past as 'pop music' can influence availability and worth but nearly every genre can have good exposure towards a audience that is willing to listen to it.

If your stance on music is more intelligible than most, go ahead.
no one cares


looooooool why does everyone play cod not everyone goes on a killing spree
lllllllllllloooooooooool why does everyone watch naruto no one is really a ninja with chakra
like legit. what the fuck.
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  Posted on January 27, 2017 10:16
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Meaning is subjective. watface.

So is entertainment. Many cultures find many things entertaining and this extends to music. Many people hold their own individual values towards things and this extends through judgement and self-satisfaction.


Of course, I've never claimed the opposite.

looooooool why does everyone play cod not everyone goes on a killing spree
lllllllllllloooooooooool why does everyone watch naruto no one is really a ninja with chakra
like legit. what the fuck.


It's not the same at all. I'm not saying that when Eminem sings about killing women people actually start killing women. No. I'm saying it promotes hate and rage, which is never good. When people play games like CoD or watch animes like Naruto they are doing it with the notion that this isn't real. They follow a story line or compete against other players. Music is nothing like that. You just listen to it. And while you may not pay much attention to the lyrics, other people do and it influences them in a way.

Why do you care anyway.

Seriously, why is everyone acting as if being a little altruistic is a crime. Hello? As far as I know - it's not. lol

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  Posted on January 27, 2017 11:59
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Itachi-dani wrote:
Meaning is subjective. watface.

So is entertainment. Many cultures find many things entertaining and this extends to music. Many people hold their own individual values towards things and this extends through judgement and self-satisfaction.


Of course, I've never claimed the opposite.

looooooool why does everyone play cod not everyone goes on a killing spree
lllllllllllloooooooooool why does everyone watch naruto no one is really a ninja with chakra
like legit. what the fuck.


It's not the same at all. I'm not saying that when Eminem sings about killing women people actually start killing women. No. I'm saying it promotes hate and rage, which is never good. When people play games like CoD or watch animes like Naruto they are doing it with the notion that this isn't real. They follow a story line or compete against other players. Music is nothing like that. You just listen to it. And while you may not pay much attention to the lyrics, other people do and it influences them in a way.

Why do you care anyway.

Seriously, why is everyone acting as if being a little altruistic is a crime. Hello? As far as I know - it's not. lol

Its completely fine being altruistic, but why here. Why not go to a music forum where you will find strong or even educated opinions.

Yeah my point is exactly what you said. Music is not real. Its just talk. So is art in general, anything that is not the actual act is not the act.

When did I imply I didn't listen to lyrics.

Here is a NYT (Leftist I know whatever right) article Here. It describes that 'that watching excessive amounts of TV as a child or adolescent — in which most of the content contains violence — was causally associated with antisocial behavior in early adulthood.'

However, it goes on to say; 'What’s missing are studies on whether watching violent media directly leads to committing extreme violence. '

This study actually relates to TV, which is a source of media like music or video games, and can be related on the groups that they are both audio-visual stimulus.

This peer-reviewed journal entry by the Pediatrics (which published the other study I referenced before)

'Although the emotional response to music depends on the way it is presented, it is also true that it is closely related to the age of the listener and the experiences or preconceived ideas they bring to the music.'

Which this point, I would agree if you went for a more divergent stance making music 'rated' and only being able to be listened by a certain age. This is already done for the most part, but maybe a suggestion towards enforcing impressionable kids.

'To understand the importance of music in the life of adolescents, a survey performed in the early 1990s of 2760 American adolescents aged 14 through 16 years revealed that they listened to music an average of 40 hours per week.'
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Kanye has also tweeted 'Stevie Wonder never had to use the word bitch to get his point across.'

This showcases the fact that as time has changed, to get a point across requires new words, a new medium. It changes.

Whats to understand here is that we understand that media can influence, but we do not have the information to establish a exact correlation. To gain stats on this would require a large amount of samples. The problem is that denoting the population for a study for this kind of interest is difficult because it is a influence that is naturally occurring.

If you want another Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye (QUEUE THAT FUKIN SLOW JAMZ ON FUKIN REPEAT) then you can find someone like them maybe. I know this is not your point, but yeah.

Again, not the place for this kinda conversation by a long stretch. Go on /r/music or /r/hiphopheads or /mu/ or something. I mean those are not the best places, but its a giant improvement over here lmao.

Also, slightly off the main topic. Role models are chosen by people, and not for their entire being. Someone can be a role model or someone can establish incredible feats while being acutal (no bs) insane eg. Pythgoras.


Fkn Edit:
One more thing, (how'd I not see this ealier)

And while you may not pay much attention to the lyrics, other people do and it influences them in a way.

This is a fallacy if you relate it to just music. I can watch anime purely for this entertainment content, and still look at the underlying messages of it.
Common, Catcher in the Rye? We know that shit is not real. People ARE influenced. sure. 100%. But look at to what extent. 4 'Claims/Associations' of shootings with 65 million copies sold. Its such a outlier that you can conclude that it does not influence people yet it has examples where it 'has'. As a result, if it is not the book, it is the person, and the person did what they did because of their own being.

People are more or less prone to what they can be altered by. I love the fact that we can have all this kinda shit twirling around. People hear and listen to all types of things. Depressing, mean shit to bright and motivating. The cultivation of genre and adaptions of time of music will always happen, and now music has becomes its own beast. People can listen to things, and feel sad, as with nearly anything else can that protruded to that feeling, like tv, media consumption like facebook and video games.

If I see a facebook post about something sad, or something I dislike, do I block it or do I read through it? I may not like it, it may even be disturbing or completely disagree with my opinion, but it still exists, and weather it is popular or not, or has any effect is based on the commutative effort or human beings.
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