The Altar [ READ POST #130 and #137]


 Topic: The Altar [ READ POST #130 and #137]
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  Posted on February 18, 2016 04:48
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Welcome to the Naruto-Arena's Viability Rankings thread. Here, we as a community will rank every single usable character into ranks. You're all encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the characters that are usable in the metagame and what rank they should fall under. The general idea of the topic is to rank characters based on their effectiveness in the current metagame.



S-Rank - Reserved for characters that are simply amazing. These characters are usually able to perform a variety of roles effectively, or can just do one extremely well. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. Characters in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits.

A-Rank - Reserved for characters that are fantastic, and can spike, support, or counter significant portions of the metagame. These characters require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be overlooked when compared to their positive traits.

B-Rank - Reserved for characters that are great but not exactly amazing. These characters have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support.

C-Rank - Reserved for characters that have notable niches, but have just as many notable flaws that prevent them from being effective. Characters in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. Characters from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used characters.

D-Rank - Reserved for characters that are mediocre, but are viable enough to justify their use on selected teams. These characters are usable but have no real niche. Characters from this rank have multiple crippling flaws that prevent them from being successful a majority of the time, and are often severely outclassed because of it.

Blacklist - Characters that are just bad; plain and simple. Those characters shouldn't be used at all.

Unranked - Yet to be ranked.
  Posted on February 18, 2016 04:48
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+/+ Discussion Points History +/+

Uzumaki Naruto, Haruno Sakura and Uchiha Sasuke -> Posts #8 - #21, pages 1 & 2.
Inuzuka Kiba, Aburame Shino and Hyuuga Hinata -> Posts #23 - #45, pages 2, 3 & 4.
Nara Shikamaru, Akimichi Chouji and Yamanaka Ino -> Posts #46 - #75, pages 4 & 5.
Rock Lee, Tenten and Hyuuga Neji -> Posts #76 - #93, pages 6 & 7.
Gaara, Kankuro and Temari -> Posts #93 - #105, page 7.
Kinuta Dosu, Tsuchi Kin and Abumi Zaku -> Posts #106 - #111, page 8.
Young Kakashi, Uchiha Obito and Nohara Rin -> Posts #112 - #121, pages 8 & 9.
Hyuuga Hanabi, Rehab. Gaara, Drunken Lee and Oboro -> Posts #122 - #130, page 9.
Shigure, Akadou Yoroi and Tsurugi Misumi -> Posts #130 - #136, pages 9 & 10.

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+/+Poll Results +/+

Spike, Spike, Spike! How to deal with it?!
"THOU SHALT NOT PASS!" - which is the most annoying?
"I Won't Let You Die!" - Death preventing skills.

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RULES:

Post intelligently. Posts like "I think character X should be in this rank" without any reasoning will not be accounted for.
Usage may be used to support an argument or a claim, but don't base your ENTIRE argument around them.
No one-liners or useless comments
Keep in mind that this is NOT a balance discussion thread. We're not here to call for nerfs or boosts. We're here to discuss each character's place in the current meta.
Always blame the chakra and rng gods, for they are the ones truly running this god forsaken game.
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  Posted on February 18, 2016 04:48
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S RANK



A RANK

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A+

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A

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A-


B RANK

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B+

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B

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B-


C RANK

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C+

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C

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C-



D RANK



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  Posted on February 18, 2016 04:49
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1st of all, YES, I did shamelessly steal the Altar tittle. Sue me.

And yes, all characters will start off as "unranked". I didn't want the rankings to be based off solely on my opinion and I'd also like for us to have something to talk about for a while, so every couple of days we'll be posting slates with discussion points until we've been through and ranked every single character.

Also, for now I won't be adding the unoptimized characters as they're bound to be gone eventually, no matter how long it takes ( years maybe? ). Although we'll keep an open mind, so if someone strongly feels like some of them are worth of mention, leave a sensible and well-thoughtout post and we might just make an exception, or multiple exceptions even, if need be.

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I lowkey hate myself for doing all this about an dying online flash game, but I still strongly feel attached to it due to nostalgia so why the fuck not.
  Posted on February 18, 2016 04:58
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Well, I'll start off slow. If it does set off them we'll keep going forward. If not, then well.. atleast I tried.

1st Character Slate



So, here's the thing. You don't need to overthink your post, just keep it substantial and succinct.

E.g : Naruto should move to C+. His damage output is consistent, he's got means to protect himself and "Rasengan" is an overall above average stun. Althought he does rely too much on his Shadow Clones and his skill costs makes him face stiff competition from other tai/nin users.
  Posted on February 18, 2016 04:59
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  Posted on February 18, 2016 05:13
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1st Character Slate

Naruto B+
Has an above average stun and quite cheap, decent, damage output. Perma DR is nice but the fact the he has no piercing abilities and relies heavily on cooldowns means he isn't suitable in a wide range of scenarios. He's used with Kiba and Tayuya in wars, but doesn't see too much gameplay in other teams or in ladder.

Sakura A
I almost gave her an A+, it's hard to decide. Her prep is just broken, straight up. Spams 30 damage with a strong stun with no cd, and you can't stop her cause yeah, the prep.

Sasuke A
Sasuke has always 100 combo'd with himself and it's what will always make him suitable in a range of teams. Now that his sharingan stops DR and invul for a random though, he finds a place in many more teams than before. Take for example, his pairing with Neji and Itachi, where Sasuke's sharingan provides another way to get Neji's full 50 damage off. Used consistently with chars like Zabuza, Orochimaru and Kushina, he may not be super versatile but he's too good at what he does to not be this high.

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  Posted on February 18, 2016 05:24
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sanin-orochi wrote:
Well, I'll start off slow. If it does set off them we'll keep going forward. If not, then well.. atleast I tried.

1st Character Slate



So, here's the thing. You don't need to overthink your post, just keep it substantial and succinct.

E.g : Naruto should move to C+. His damage output is consistent, he's got means to protect himself and "Rasengan" is an overall above average stun. Althought he does rely too much on his Shadow Clones and his skill costs makes him face stiff competition from other tai/nin users.

Naruto A
Naruto has 15 Damage Reduction, and can cycle it every other four turns when he needs it, meaning he can reduce your damage by 15 throughout the entire game, while gaining the ability to make his move stronger, he has one of the most powerful stuns of the game, which is 45 damage. Also, the fact that he can be in so many teams that are blood-line and genjutsu chakra which makes him deadly to even piercing characters which seems to be his weaknesses , however, they're not as much because he can spam 30 moves as long as he has his prep up and can spam 20 if the player choses not to spend a random, or it's late game and uses that move as a last resort to win it.

Sakura A
Sakura is an overall annoying character, considering most characters are physical classed, she can stun one of the most classes there are, her preparation skill allows her to be completely immune to all effects in the game, which are damage increasers, stuns, drains, and offensive counters, while also having a self-healing mechanism which completely seals down an opponent in the event of a 1 on 1 battle.

Sasuke A
Sasuke can combo easy, he has the three major classes in the game which in the current meta-game makes him unstunnable to some combos, which means he is able to perform the most awesome combos with other characters, while disabling the opponents defenses in any scenario with just one random chakra, even if that one random chakra wasn't used, he still has a piercing damage attack which can pierce through the damage reduction of some characters.

  Posted on February 18, 2016 05:28
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choppy wrote:
sanin-orochi wrote:
1st Character Slate

Naruto B+
Has an above average stun and quite cheap, decent, damage output. Perma DR is nice but the fact the he has no piercing abilities and relies heavily on cooldowns means he isn't suitable in a wide range of scenarios. He's used with Kiba and Tayuya in wars, but doesn't see too much gameplay in other teams or in ladder.

You see, I have a problem with this. Naruto is so linear and one dimentional; he's easy to predict and counter, not to say that there are characters out there that are just flat out better. If anything I'd give it C+, B- at best.

Agreed on Sakura.

Now about Sasuke, I'd risk saying he only barely misses out on the S rank lol. Yes, one dimentional like Naruto, but he's so damn annoying to play around because we literally can't reduce his damage and because both of his offensive skills deal high amounts of damage getting countered once or twice doesn't bother him at all ( unlike Naruto, who is just a sitting duck for a turn if Rasenga does get countered or stopped in some fashion). And on top of that the DR is really nice.
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Naruto - A character with high damage and decent defence, his chakra cost is not high, and the cooldown of his skills are pretty low, he can stun for one specific with a whopping 45 damage and 30 damage with one specific, but he has a blindspot when he is not prepared and it makes him useless only dealing 20 damage, but he is great vs people with low defence or none.

Rank : A

Sasuke - A character with extreme damage dealing 30 damage with two skills for one specific but with his preparation his damage is not only improved but renders the opponent useless unable to defend themselves and he is able to kill them in two turns + with piercing damage and using two different chakra its pretty easy to kill, a weakness could be he is not that effective to enemies without preparation active on them and the cooldown to reset takes a while.

Rank: A+

Sakura - A character that can ignore pretty much everything, stun the most common class in the game and heal herself repetitively is a pretty dominant character, she cannot be stunned or drained while she prepared, and her stun deals 30 damage for one specific without a cooldown, also her heal has no cooldown, extremely hard to defeat in a 1v1, only lack is she could be facing opponents that do not use physical or mental skills.

Rank : S

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  Posted on February 18, 2016 05:52
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Naruto - B

his damage reduction makes him a threat and his full stun Rasengan is formidable. However piercers/anti defense make him a lot less scary, and stuns/counters close to halve his optimal damage output because it limits the amount of Rasengan he can use.

Sasuke - A

In any team where a nin user can fit, he usually can as well. Anti invul/defense, self 100 combo, good DR, split chakra usage on both his spiking abilities he is really clutch in all his team's and is one of the few non stunning chars who still can draw first focus in a match.

Sakura - A+

The Queen of Brazil since 07. Her prep is insane because she ignores all effects except kushina, fuck that char, or shika fujin. That alone for 1 random would be enough, but she also gains DR, and has a 1 chakra no CD 30 damage stun available for the duration. Her heal isn't amazing but it is substantial enough to keep her team afloat and ensure that combines with her prep will make her win 90% of 1v1s


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  Posted on February 18, 2016 06:02
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Note everyone, just so you know how this is going to work:

For now I'm going to be changing slates everyday or so to get things moving. Once I do so I'll send a pm to both Choppy and Bubz so we can get into an agreement on how things should move after taking into account what everyone has said. And that's pretty much it.

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Masta_J, yes, those two are nuts for giving Naruto anything above B.
  Posted on February 18, 2016 06:44
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Naruto

Like everyone has said, his obvious best skill is Rasengan. A 45 damage full stun. However, because of the prep and the cooldown of 1, it comes out slowly and is used a max 2 times per prep. While his 30 damage for tai is cost efficient, it isn't particularly game breaking without any added effects.
His damage reduction is nice, but overall just a small deterrent to damage without any other added effects.
(Underrated is his invul being a chakra classed skill, however.

Formidable, but not a major threat. B-


Sakura

As everyone has said, her ability to ignore all effects is unbelievable. Plus damage reduc? Then to get a Taijustu 30 damage physical or mental stun? Talk about value! And while her heal isn't overly powerful, it will surprisingly get you out of a lot of jams and probably win you 1 v 1's.

You can't ignore her. And she's a pain to deal with. = A-


Sasuke

He has a combo that can kill you on his own in 3 turns, unless you have destructible defense or healing. (Or unpiercable DR but that's uncommon.)
But, what really makes him formidable is simply Sharingan. For one random, he removes your ability to become invulnerable or reduce damage. It can't be interrupted. This is what puts him in such a high tier because often you're trying to protect a character on your team and he tears that apart for a low cost. Plus Chidori is piercing anyways! And the damage reduction. It's one of the best skills in the game, atm.

He disrupts your team every game. He cannot be ignored. And he's great 1 v 1. = A
  Posted on February 18, 2016 08:38
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(Or unpiercable DR but that's uncommon.)
Just for the record bro, Sharingan still let's him combo through unpiercable DR. Sasuke too strong :(

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