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  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:32
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Amaterasu doesn't take much time to kill someone. 2 minutes max. It's a fast jutsu, Kakuzu with his current speed can't avoid it. Even with his 5 lifes, what can he do? Do you understand how they work? If he's burn to ashes he can't revive, he ain't the Phoenix bird, bro.
And after casting amaterasu Itachi can just protect him with the Susanoo until Kakuzu dies.
And according to Kishi, Itachi's stats are 35.5 in the 3rd databook, Kakuzu's are 32.5. The only part where Kakuzu owns Itachi is stamina (4.5 compared to 2.5). In all other stuff, Itachi has much better stats. So explain again, what are Kakuzu's chances to avoid amaterasu. :|
And u are really wrong saying Kakuzu is faster than Itachi, Itachi's speed is way greater (5 compared to Kakuzu who has 4). Itachi has been able to keep up with Naruto in his chakra mode.
You realize Itachi needs to watch out for 5 directions? If he focuses his sight on 1 direction to use Amaterasu he will just get hit from the other 4 directions.
Ur argument is invalid. Before Kakuzu can create his minions with his hearts, he would be already hit. All what is left for Itachi is to use Susanoo. And considering Itachi's speed, I think he can protect himself even without Susanoo, the heck, just running away.
  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:32
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Amaterasu doesn't take much time to kill someone. 2 minutes max. It's a fast jutsu, Kakuzu with his current speed can't avoid it. Even with his 5 lifes, what can he do? Do you understand how they work? If he's burn to ashes he can't revive, he ain't the Phoenix bird, bro.
And after casting amaterasu Itachi can just protect him with the Susanoo until Kakuzu dies.
And according to Kishi, Itachi's stats are 35.5 in the 3rd databook, Kakuzu's are 32.5. The only part where Kakuzu owns Itachi is stamina (4.5 compared to 2.5). In all other stuff, Itachi has much better stats. So explain again, what are Kakuzu's chances to avoid amaterasu. :|
And u are really wrong saying Kakuzu is faster than Itachi, Itachi's speed is way greater (5 compared to Kakuzu who has 4). Itachi has been able to keep up with Naruto in his chakra mode.

It will take more than 2 minutes and even longer with the Iron Skin technique. Multipling it by 5 times, Kakuzu has the win if Itachi really activates Susano'o after firing the Amaterasu. Kakuzu doesn't have to avoid Amaterasu. Iron Skin technique x5 lifes and he has really much time to fight.

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Depends on the scenario in which Kakuzu starts

If not detatched
Itachi easily wins this one Big you know that.
Genjutsu would completely wreck Kakuzu.
All 5 hearts killed while inside Tsukyomi.

If Masks are detatched
If Kakuzu is starting with his masks/hearts already separated.
In which case Kakuzu wins easily. But if not Itachi kills him with ease.

Tsukuyoumi nor any other genjutsu won't work on Kakuzu. He has 4 mask, everyone of them has its own chakra system. Totally with Kakuzu, when he's not split there are 5 chakra systems in one body. Genjutsu works by affecting the chakra system of the user. If Kakuzu has at least one mask inside of him, he's immune to any genjutsu because you can't affect his chakra system, because he has 2 of them then. In other words, if Itachi uses Tsukuyoumi, he will waste a lot of chakra for nothing. And even if he would be able to use it (he won't, but I'm saying even IF), I've already explained why Tsukuyoumi is nothing for Kakuzu.

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Amaterasu doesn't take much time to kill someone. 2 minutes max. It's a fast jutsu, Kakuzu with his current speed can't avoid it. Even with his 5 lifes, what can he do? Do you understand how they work? If he's burn to ashes he can't revive, he ain't the Phoenix bird, bro.
And after casting amaterasu Itachi can just protect him with the Susanoo until Kakuzu dies.
And according to Kishi, Itachi's stats are 35.5 in the 3rd databook, Kakuzu's are 32.5. The only part where Kakuzu owns Itachi is stamina (4.5 compared to 2.5). In all other stuff, Itachi has much better stats. So explain again, what are Kakuzu's chances to avoid amaterasu. :|
And u are really wrong saying Kakuzu is faster than Itachi, Itachi's speed is way greater (5 compared to Kakuzu who has 4). Itachi has been able to keep up with Naruto in his chakra mode.
You realize Itachi needs to watch out for 5 directions? If he focuses his sight on 1 direction to use Amaterasu he will just get hit from the other 4 directions.
Ur argument is invalid. Before Kakuzu can create his minions with his hearts, he would be already hit. All what is left for Itachi is to use Susanoo. And considering Itachi's speed, I think he can protect himself even without Susanoo, the heck, just running away.

Kakuzu needs to create his minions, Itachi needs to activate Mangekyou Sharingan, then use Amaterasu and then to use Susano'o in your scenario. Itachi uses Amaterasu on Kakuzu and nothing happens, he can let it burn for a really long time now, he can even use the Iron Skin technique to make it longer. Running away = surrender.
  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:33
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Depends on the scenario in which Kakuzu starts

If not detatched
Itachi easily wins this one Big you know that.
Genjutsu would completely wreck Kakuzu.
All 5 hearts killed while inside Tsukyomi.

If Masks are detatched
If Kakuzu is starting with his masks/hearts already separated.
In which case Kakuzu wins easily. But if not Itachi kills him with ease.

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  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:36
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#49
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ichi8 wrote:
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Amaterasu doesn't take much time to kill someone. 2 minutes max. It's a fast jutsu, Kakuzu with his current speed can't avoid it. Even with his 5 lifes, what can he do? Do you understand how they work? If he's burn to ashes he can't revive, he ain't the Phoenix bird, bro.
And after casting amaterasu Itachi can just protect him with the Susanoo until Kakuzu dies.
And according to Kishi, Itachi's stats are 35.5 in the 3rd databook, Kakuzu's are 32.5. The only part where Kakuzu owns Itachi is stamina (4.5 compared to 2.5). In all other stuff, Itachi has much better stats. So explain again, what are Kakuzu's chances to avoid amaterasu. :|
And u are really wrong saying Kakuzu is faster than Itachi, Itachi's speed is way greater (5 compared to Kakuzu who has 4). Itachi has been able to keep up with Naruto in his chakra mode.
You realize Itachi needs to watch out for 5 directions? If he focuses his sight on 1 direction to use Amaterasu he will just get hit from the other 4 directions.
Ur argument is invalid. Before Kakuzu can create his minions with his hearts, he would be already hit. All what is left for Itachi is to use Susanoo. And considering Itachi's speed, I think he can protect himself even without Susanoo, the heck, just running away.
Lol? Are you serious? You seriously think he can simply run away from those?
You saw how someone like Kakashi couldn't do shit and he only faced 2 of those + Hidan, and according to that databook their speed is nearly the same (4.5 and 5).

And I doubt he won't even be able to create his minions lmao, saying that is ridiculous. By this logic no one except Raikage and Minato can beat any Amaterasu user because they will get hit before they can do anything.
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  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:44
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Tbh, depends

I doubt Itachi can last that long in this battle, his best attacks consume a lot of chakra and in turn puts a risk on his health and eyesight..
While he seals one with his totsuka sword, he can simultaneously defend himself from the remaining with Yata Mirror. I see no other way of itachi winning other than that.

If an overwhelming toll take on him due to his abilities ( which is likely ), Kakuzu may just win. Itachi has to face 5 of his hearts at the same time. Plus Kakuzu has more fighting experience and a vast arsenal of ninjutsu of all elements at his disposal. Also, he must have faced sharingan users and knows how to deal with them.
I'm more on to Kakuzu taking this one.
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  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:45
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I don't think Itachi can do a lot in this scenario and Pawelgs put up good arguements.
It'll probably come down to fatigue and Kakuzu will end up winning it.

Sorry fanboys.

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Plus Kakuzu has more fighting experience and a vast arsenal of ninjutsu of all elements at his disposal. Also, he must have faced sharingan users and knows how to deal with them.

Isn't Kakuzu like 90 year old? He must know how to deal with eye users like Sharingan/Byakugan since they I assume he fought in some great wars/fought an Uchiha before their massacre.
  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:50
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Itachi.
  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:52
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Itachi.

And here ladies and gentlemen you have the averge Itachi fan's IQ.
  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:53
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Isn't Kakuzu like 90 year old? He must know how to deal with eye users like Sharingan/Byakugan since they I assume he fought in some great wars/fought an Uchiha before their massacre.

Which I basically said..
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  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:56
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You realize Itachi needs to watch out for 5 directions? If he focuses his sight on 1 direction to use Amaterasu he will just get hit from the other 4 directions.
Ur argument is invalid. Before Kakuzu can create his minions with his hearts, he would be already hit. All what is left for Itachi is to use Susanoo. And considering Itachi's speed, I think he can protect himself even without Susanoo, the heck, just running away.
Lol? Are you serious? You seriously think he can simply run away from those?
You saw how someone like Kakashi couldn't do shit and he only faced 2 of those + Hidan, and according to that databook their speed is nearly the same (4.5 and 5).

And I doubt he won't even be able to create his minions lmao, saying that is ridiculous. By this logic no one except Raikage and Minato can beat any Amaterasu user because they will get hit before they can do anything.

Kakashi is fodder. His speed is shit compared to Itachi, who matched Naruto's speed in chakra mode, similar to Minato's.
But anyways, let's just think at this scenario: Itachi uses Susanno and chases Kakuzu with his Totsuka Blade. Susanoo is pretty fast, dont make the mistake to think Itachi's Susanoo is slow, when he used Susanoo against Sasuke he was dying. Using his much superior speed and his lethal Totsuka Blade, Itachi can seal Kakuzu. Also, I'm pretty sure Itachi can stay in his Susanoo a lot, he is an Uchiha afterall and he isn't like in the fight against Sasuke, completly weakened and willing to die. Susanno's attacks are fast, that's known.
But anyways, I still believe either this or amaterasu would bring Kakuzu's death. Itachi is just superior, just like how Kishi says :) And yes, I think almost nobody can have a chance against amaterasu , unless ur speed is goddamn fast or you can absorb chakra. But fighting against amaterasu is rare, remember.
That's my last post here. Someone with 32.5 cant beat someone with 35.5, goddamn logic.
Edit: According to Kishi, not only in speed, but Itachi's superior to Kakuzu even in pure taijutsu (4.5 vs 4).
  Posted on July 24, 2015 22:58
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Now then, I don't like fights where we don't know the scenario, the reason they are fighting for, where are they fighting and what do they know about each other. In that case I suppose, both of them are at the health stage they were in their last battles and with intel they already have from being Akatsuki members and that they are fighting with the intent to kill in the place where Kakuzu fought Konoha.

So anyone who says it's an easy win for either said is just way too ignorant to even post here. It would be a tremendous and hard fight for both sides with no clear winner (at least at first sight). In my honest opinion Itachi would come out as a winner, so let me say why and how would he manage to pull it off.

Reasoning: Itachi is a skilled shinobi who was originally Hokage's right hand and an Anbu. He is proficient in stealth fighting and quick observance skills. Kakuzu is old af with load of experience, but Itachi is well rounded shinobi for this fight as he would quickly adapt to Kakuzu's fighting style. We know Itachi is not a person who approaches you head on, his explosive clone and different kinds of genjutsu may cause trouble for Kakuzu in the beginning and when he would set the masks free, Itachi would have already figured a way to break his defense. (implying that Tsukuyomi didn't work to finish him off quickly - I believe Kakuzu is way too skilled to just fall into Tsukuyomi when he knows Itachi is a god damn Uchiha who massacred his own clan)

But here comes the problem, the various ranged attacks. Itachi would have to create a few clones and kinda pull off a Kakashi tactics here, hide behind trees, see how masks work which masks does what and so on, their power, range and so on. He would probably take a few hits, but not enough to be rendered useless to fight anymore. He would probably use Amaterasu on 2 of the masks and destroy another 2 with basic A-rank jutsus. If things became really bad he could always use Susano'o, but I think it would be anticlimatic since Itachi is a very agile shinobi which is a more suitable kind of combat for this situation.

Now then, we are finally down to 1on1 with Kakuzu having the absolute advantage as Itachi would be worn out (still implying Tsukuyomi was not cast on Kakuzu during the previous big fight). But hey! here comes Itachi's trump card, Susano. I can't see Kakuzu bringing it down no matter what and Itachi could use Amaterasu to burn Kakuzu to death or Totsuka to seal him.

In the end Kakuzu would be defeated/killed and Itachi would be so worn out that another hit would make him faint/die.

Edit: Itachi wouldn't use Susano'o in his fight with masks cos of huge chakra costs which Itachi can't just toss around, so he would really use it as his last resort in his 1on1 with the "final heart" Kakuzu.
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  Posted on July 24, 2015 23:00
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Itachi.

Itachi hasn't chance
  Posted on July 24, 2015 23:02
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If naruto can kill him with ease so can itachi. Nigga took him out with 1 attack and don't even go sage mode or kyuubi
  Posted on July 24, 2015 23:05
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People acting like Itachi can actually kill Kakuzu 5 times when he barely had the chakra to finish the fight with Sasuke.

Since the OP says nothing about his health, I assume he's ill. Kakuzu wins this because Itachi can't beat Kakuzu 5 times with the limited time and chakra he will have.
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  Posted on July 24, 2015 23:08
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People acting like Itachi can actually kill Kakuzu 5 times when he barely had the chakra to finish the fight with Sasuke.

Since the OP says nothing about his health, I assume he's ill. Kakuzu wins this because Itachi can't beat Kakuzu 5 times with the limited time and chakra he will have.
U think Itachi was trying to beat Sasuke or wut? He doesnt have low chakra reservers, they're actually just okay. Amaterasu 1 hit ko no need to kill Kakuzu 5 times. Totsuka same u seal his soul he's done.
I'm talking about Itachi in his best form.
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